53 thoughts on “Ring

    • It was pretty cool. Especially when I got home really late after dealing with Microsoft Teams issues all afternoon. ¡No me gusta el Microsoft!

      Get this. I tried to buy a couple of extra Office 365 for Business licenses the included Teams, because the Office 365 Business apps only license I bought last year doesn’t include Teams. I guess Teams is not considered an app since it’s web-based, although you have to download the Teams app to schedule meetings, but since the Teams app is not included in the apps only license, we can’t schedule meetings with Teams. Are you following?

      So when I tried to buy two Office 365 Business licenses that included Teams, the website wouldn’t let me do it. After spending an hour on the phone with a Microsoft Tech we discovered I didn’t have a certificate, and my account is under review. The tech had no idea what the said certificate is supposed to be. I dug a little deeper and I think the certificate is our Federal tax ID, which I have, but it wouldn’t let me enter it.

      The question I had is how long have they been reviewing my account? I’ve had the Microsaoft account for years, but I bought the Office 365 Business apps only last May. We finally gave up since it was 2:00 am wherever the tech was. he’s going to call back on Monday.

      • Not yet. It’s crazy, because the only Microsoft app we use is Excel, but you have to pay for the whole office suite to use one app. We can use Teams as long as someone else initiates the meeting. It is so ridiculous. Thanks, Holly.

      • I’m flowing and I wanna say: Are you for real? No me gusta Microsoft either. Da hell it doesn’t come with. Anything to make a buck, eh? We use Teams, too…
        Sorry you had such an annoying situation!

      • When Teams launched because of COVID, it was fresh off the drawing board. It wasn’t even alpha. With Teams, it’s issue after issue. I use Cisco WebEx for videoconferencing, free version which is good enough for me. It includes whiteboard support, you can do PowerPoint presentations, really any kind of presentation. I know they integrated Teams more tightly with Win11. Occasionally, I receive a nag about Teams.

      • We used to use WebEx or whatever it’s equivalent was going back to 2007. I had to use it with an Apple meet recently. I still don’t like it.

    • You would think Microsoft would want to sell subscriptions, but apparently not. I guess they are overcharging enough users, that a mere two licenses are insignificant. We are all Macs at the office. Microsoft doesn’t like Mac low lifes, even though Office was originally developed for Macintosh long before Windows existed.

      We use Keynotes for Presentations and Pages for word processing (it opens MS Word and Exports to MS Word). As I mentioned to Holly, the only MS app we use is Excel, but single licenses for Excel are outrageously expensive, so we have to have Office 365, and we don’t use anything else but Excel. Two staff members need to be able to set up meeting using Teams. One wouldn’t think it would be such a big deal. Trying to deal with Teams makes me appreciate Zoom. Thanks, Maj & Sher.

    • It’s clunky ike so many Microsoft products. Before Mac OS dropped 32 bit support, I used the Mac version of Excel. It had all the original convenient shortcuts from when Office was originally developed for Macintosh before Windows existed. Once I lost 32 bit support, I had to go to Office 365 so now Excel is the same on the Mac as it is for Windows. It’s clunky, cumbersome and takes twice as long to do the same tasks I could do with key stroke short cuts. Now I have to use a right click and navigate through two or three levels of pull-down windows to get to commands I used to get with a simple keystroke combinations. It is so frustrating. Thanks, Jeff.

      • I completely agree with the clunkiness of Microsoft products. Though I use Microsoft products at work, and only half-time at work as I have a Mac laptop as well, I do not use them at home. Ah, I get that about Excel too. You’re welcome, Tim.

  1. Now that is a lot of geometric shapes in one image – circles, rings, lines, globes – the whole geometry enchilada. Per your other comments … I definitely do NOT miss the days of fighting with the Microsoft tools at work (although those products are better than the days of having to fight with a mainframe app and then Lotus Notes) As an IT professional, I used to get extremely upset when I saw very shoddy programming for software we were buying compared to the scrutiny are internally developed code was being put through.

    • Nature has all the enchiladas, when it comes to geometry and chaos. I know what you mean on the internal code vs the some of the crap we used to buy. Thanks, Brian.

      • I use Pages for final formatting of papers, but the vast majority of my writing is done in text editors. After writing my gibberish, I paste the writing into Pages or a browser.

        I have enough distractions and trouble getting words from my brain to my fingers and finally into a typed form before I forget what I was going to write. I don’t want to be messing with all the worthless “help” word processors, and especially Grammarly, contently offer me. f

        For example, I wrote to a security vendor “What will it cost to change out the magnets on the doors?” Grammarly: “Don’t you want to use ‘attractive’ instead of ‘magnet'”? Me “WTF? I’m sure the vendor will give me a great price if I ask ‘What will it cost to change out the ‘attractive’ on the doors?'” That was a real suggestion for “rephrasing” by Grammarly. I need to start taking screen shots of the suggestions I get for “rephrasing” technical writing.

        I Grammarly off on the text editors, then it go to town when I past it into a browser, Pages or email.

        Back on track, I like to get the words written in some form that at least pretends to make sense, and then wrestle with the formatting, grammar, nit-picky choices of words, and mostly idiotic, but sometimes hilarious, suggestions for rephrasing.

        When I type directly into word processors a lot of choice words flow out of my mouth.

      • well, despite being a dinosaur –actually I am a no bad hacker and all–but the edition of word I have is geriatric. And I block all updates cos I long ago figured if something ain’t broke I sure as hell ain’t gonna waste precious hours fixing it. I just hesitate to say so cos like that I know I am not at the races in many ways in terms of being real tech minded. These programs can get too smart for their own good and then after a year or two they discover a whizzo new way of doing things that goes back to what they were doing years back.

      • Being a geriatric dinosaur is perfectly fine. I agree with the ain’t broke to fix it, but, unfortunately, I have to stay up on the broken, bleeding edge of the latest tech to some extent. I would love to get out of the tech support side of life.

      • I think the developers have to justify their existence, so they are constantly fiddling.

    • Thanks, Marina. The evaluators use Slack, but I don’t think they have ever video conferenced with Slack. None of our clients have suggested it. We prefer Zoom, but government agencies get all tied into Microsoft and want to do everything Microsoft.

      • I hear you. The last version of Windows I had on a computer at home was Version 3.1 I got on a little laptop in 1995 that went to Spain with us. When Microsft came out with Windows 98, I moved to Linux. When Apple introduced OSX, I started using Mac at home and still ran Linux at home. Now I only have Mac at home. All our computers at work with the exception of two laptops for CAD are Mac, and all the servers at work are Linux.

  2. Sorry to hear about your frustration with Microsoft, I gave up on them years ago. Is it true that a ring around the moon means rain is coming? I wonder what the ring around the sun means?

    • I haven’t had Windows at home since 1998. I do have Excel on my personal computer, but I use Numbers quite a bit also. Numbers is too database-like for most people. I used OpenOffice for years. Thanks, Tiffany.

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